stockwerkeigentum auszug wegen neuen Nachbarn???

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Hallo wohloderübel

Es ist schon so, es ist schwierig, Nachbarn zu einem rücksichtsvolleren Umgang zu bewegen. Und es belastet ungemein, vor allem wenn es sich um Wohneigentum handelt. Zur Miete ist man ja noch schnell mal weg…

Was sagen denn die anderen Stockwerkeigentümer? Vielleicht würde ein koordiniertes Vorgehen etwas bringen. Und habt ihr keine Verwaltung, die sich um das Haus kümmert? Reglement hin oder her gibt es natürlich Verhaltensvorschriften auch für Besitzer von Wohneigentum. Auch wenn einem die eigenen vier Wände gehören, kann man nicht einfach tun und lassen, was man will. Zumindest ist zu gewissen Zeiten Ruhe einzuhalten.

Wenn Nachtruhestörungen vorliegen, kannst du nach vorheriger und dann wohl erfolgloser Intervention, Anzeige bei der Polizei erstatten. Die haben zwar anderes zu tun, müssten sich aber wohl oder übel darum kümmern.

Beste Grüsse, Alamo

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hallo
es ist halt immer schwierig wo mehrere menschen aufeinandertreffen und dazu noch auf engem raum. wenn dazu noch soziale, kulturelle unterschiede kommen dann wird es immer enger…kompromisse sind hier wohl angesagt von beiden seiten. das würde erfordern dass man sich von beiden seiten aus versucht näher zu kommen und die vorstellungen einmal auflistet und dann versucht beiden seiten gerecht zu werden. das gespräch ist die einzige möglichkeit, vielleicht setzen sie sich mit den nachbarn einmal zusammen bei tee und gebäck und versuchen bedingungen auszuhandeln bei denen beiden stockwerkeigentümern wohl ist.

ansonsten bleibt wohl nur sich eine neue bleibe zu suchen und zu hoffen, dass es dort dann wirklich besser ist. wir sind selber gebrannte kinder aus stockwerkeigentum und haben nachher wohneigentum gekauft und hier unsere ruhe, allerdings geht es auch hier nicht ohne gegenseitige rücksichtnahme und toleranz.
viel glück!

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wir haben ein haus gebaut - keine wohnung mehr gekauft - aber erst nachdem wir mit einem reihenhausteil wegen der ringhörigkeit nocheinmal über den tisch gezogen worden sind.

jetzt im eigenen haus ist es so, dass wir es toll finden und auch nette nachbarn haben…die sucherei lohnt sich schon, aber der weg ist auch immer mal mit enttäuschungen gepflastert, aber vielleicht haben sie das mehr glück…

wir wohnen jetzt im haus seit mai diesen jahres und wenn es so bleibt, dann sind wir ganz zufrieden. und ja - vielleicht lohnt es sich noch einmal zu investieren, allerdings würde ich mir die isolation wirklich genau anhören - und daran denken - dass immer mal ein mieter- oder besitzerwechsel nachträglich stattfinden kann und man damit niemals vor überraschungen sicher sein kann.
herzliche grüsse susann

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danke für die guten wünsche, das wünschen wir euch ebenfalls zusätzlich viel ausdauer beim suchen.

geld verloren haben wir gsd nicht so sehr das war auch absolut erträglich vom verlust her, nur bei dem ersten versuch in absolut neues stockwerkeigentum zu investieren, die gesundheitliche belastung war grösser und hat uns mehr zugesetzt. wir waren aber so intelligent auszuziehen, bevor wir uns zu sehr damit belastet haben. das folgende haus war zu wenig überlegt zu gross und zu lärmig vom aussenbereich (strasse, fluglärm) - jetzt haben wir das ideale haus von grösse, bauweise und umgebung her - wir und unsere beiden hunde haben platz und wir können uns entfalten und das ist schon die umzieherei wert.
bin gespannt, für welchen weg ihr euch entscheidet!
schönes wochenende susann

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Es stimmt nicht, dass man die ganze Nacht duschen kann. Vielleicht ist das ja im Stockwerkeigentümerreglement geregelt. Ansonsten gibt es allgemein verbindliche Punkte, die kantonal geregelt sind. Lies doch mal das Interview mit dem Spezialisten: Hausinfo - «hausgeplaudert!» zum Nachbarrecht

Gruss, Alamo

hallo alamo
ich denke auch nicht, dass man die ganze nacht duschen kann oder darf. die frage ist doch einfach immer wie man seine rechte durchsetzen möchte und kann. spricht man miteinander - was ich für die beste lösung halte und es bringt auch etwas, ist das schon die halbe miete. ist hingegen einer der beiden parteien “uneinsichtig” wird das durchsetzen ob man im recht ist oder nicht schon schwierig, vorallem wenn derjenige oberhalb wohnt, da gibt es doch viele möglichkeiten den anderen dafür zu ärgern und da sehe ich einfach das problem.

bevor man sich auf einen jahrelangen zermürbenden machtkampf einlässt, sucht man dann halt einfach nach anderen, friedlicheren lösungen.

nachtruhe ist von 22.00 uhr bis 06.00 uhr duschen sollte doch eigentlich bis mitternacht möglich sein, auch so, dass man es im stockwerkeigentum nicht unbedingt im darunterliegenden stockwerk hört…
nüt für unguet und herzliche grüsse susann

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Wünsch dir Glück! Es bleibt dabei, in der Regel muss nach 22.00 Uhr Ruhe herrschen, Dreck an den Füssen hin oder her :wink:

Gruss, Alamo

Eine Lösung ist in Sicht. Wir werden auf 1. Mai umziehen in eine
schöne Mietwohnung im Kanton Aargau und unsere Wohnung werden
wir schnell - egal ob Verlust oder nicht - verkaufen müssen.
Danke und Grüsse

Gratuliere

Jetzt ist das aber schnell gegangen. Dann wünsche ich euch einen möglichst erfolgreichen Verkaufsprozess und dann “ruhige Zeiten” :toll:

Alamo

Danke Alamo

Danke für die Wünsche.Mieten ging schnell, aber
verkaufen dauert noch. Wir haben einfach genug.
In unserem Alter muss man schnell handeln.
Hauptsache ist für uns noch die Gesundheit.
Alle Probleme, die man mit Geld lösen kann, kann
man irgendwie verkraften.Der Makler will die Wohnung
bis spätestens Herbst verkaufen, wenn wir einen
guten Preis machen. Verlust hin oder her, Haupt-
sache die Wohnung ist weg. Das schöne neue
Heim in einem kleinen, übersichtlichen Mehrfam.
Haus mit langjährigen Mietern haben wir über den
Makler bekommen, der die Wohnung verkauft. Uns
ist auch angenehm, in den Kanton Aargau zu ziehen.

Ihnen (oder Dir ) Alamo alles Gute, GESUNDHEIT
und Glück mit Immobilien
Viele Grüsse aus der Innerschweiz

supi finde ich dass, dass ihr so schnell eine doch so gute lösung gefunden habt und umziehen könnt.

mir scheint immer, wenn sich etwas so ungefreut anlässt, dann wird es sich kaum zum besten ändern indem man abwartet sondern seine nerven schont und umzieht (und immer auch mit den gedanken im hinterkopf, dass es am neuen ort dann auch wirklich besser ist!).

nun gilt es also nur noch das eigentum so gut wie möglich an den mann zu bringen, aber wenn ihr einen tüchtigen makler habt mit guten ideen und verkaufstalent sollte das ja kein problem sein. wir haben unser letztes refh im zürcher weinland in einer wirklich kleinen gemeinde innert der vorgegebenen zeit (10 wochen nov./dez./jan. mit makler verkauft), zum geschätzten preis - ich drücke euch ganz fest die daumen, dass es bei euch ebensogut klappt. verdient habt ihr es euch auf jeden fall und viel, viel glück für den neuen ort!

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